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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-30256</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tree - the Civil War was fought on Southern soil.  The Vietnam War was fought on Vietnamese soil.   In both case there was an invader and a defender.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-30254</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve long viewed the Confederate flag as the symbol of the last stand of Native Americans against the Union.  General Sherman&#039;s march over Atlanta is viewed by serious historians as a trial run for a new tactic to be directed westward.  It was the Union that forced the &quot;Trail of Tears&quot; over the objections of some of the southern States.   The last Confederate General to surrender was a native American chieftan.  The cost of the Confederate loss to Native Americans is arguably greater than the gain to African Americans.   (The Confederacy would itself have broke into slave and non-slave States before the institution simply collapsed as it finally did in Australia, etc..  before the face of industrialization - and without the &#039;rally around the flag&#039;-including-its-most-repugnant-causes effect of the Union power grab. )  In other words, the African Americans would have won out eventually - and probably in better shape since the unimaginable amount of blood spilled in the Civil War psychologically absolved Southern whites of their natural sense of duty or responsibility towards their former charges .. something that I think would have been impossible if the institution had dissolved peacably.   But for Native America, the cost of losing the war was irrecoverable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long viewed the Confederate flag as the symbol of the last stand of Native Americans against the Union.  General Sherman&#8217;s march over Atlanta is viewed by serious historians as a trial run for a new tactic to be directed westward.  It was the Union that forced the &#8220;Trail of Tears&#8221; over the objections of some of the southern States.   The last Confederate General to surrender was a native American chieftan.  The cost of the Confederate loss to Native Americans is arguably greater than the gain to African Americans.   (The Confederacy would itself have broke into slave and non-slave States before the institution simply collapsed as it finally did in Australia, etc..  before the face of industrialization &#8211; and without the &#8216;rally around the flag&#8217;-including-its-most-repugnant-causes effect of the Union power grab. )  In other words, the African Americans would have won out eventually &#8211; and probably in better shape since the unimaginable amount of blood spilled in the Civil War psychologically absolved Southern whites of their natural sense of duty or responsibility towards their former charges .. something that I think would have been impossible if the institution had dissolved peacably.   But for Native America, the cost of losing the war was irrecoverable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jantz</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-26495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Jantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone again!  I have written many letters regarding the Confederacy and the Confederate flag.  As I read all the letters on this site one thing stands out to me that everyone seems to agree on, that is,  nobody is condoning slavery  but simply trying to point out who is to blame and was the war needed/ justified.   I do not believe that the Northern states should have or needed to invade the Southern states for any reason.  My reasons are stated in letters I have written  when you type in &quot;Thomas Jantz, Confederacy&quot; When I was a child {I am now 58 years old} during the 100 anniv. of the war I would travel through the southern states with my parents and siblings.  We would stop at misc. Civil War sites that battles took place or other war related events.  I remember seeing Confederate flags in downtown areas all over the place.  In Gatlinburg, Tenn. I remember seeing flags from both sides lining the streets along with lifesize wooden cutouts of Rebel and Union soldiers and other &quot;neet stuff&quot; that as a kid I was thrilled with!  Those were the days before political correctness.  After the war there were  get togethers by veterans of both sides to remember the war and see their fellow soldiers who they served with again and to shake hands with and embrace the men who were once their enemy.  I hate to think that we as citizens today are somehow undoing what those old veterans did, that is, brought closure to the war as best they could.  It seems many followers of the war dismiss or justify the statemnts of Abe Lincoln before and during the war regarding black citizens and slavery in general.  Many people say that while he did make statements about blacks being inferior, wanting to send them to other countries, ending the war if he could even if slavery still exsisted, etc etc. that he evolved from those positions.  If it is true or not, why do the same people not  give southern leaders a break?  Malcom X was correct when he stated that Lincoln was not the man that most History books make him out to be.  I am not a Lincoln hater, I just think that we as Americans should stop putting people up on pedistals.  Everone is only human - everyone!  I do not think that God would have put his blessing on Northern men invading the south and killing Southern men in battle.  The institution of slavery was a problem of the whole country.  Both northern and Southern troops took great pains in making sure Mount Vernon was trated with respect when they arrived there.  Both sides saw Washington as &quot;on their side&quot;, Washington, the man who owned about 300 slaves.  Washington was on Confederate currency.  I have to say that so often when someone defends the Southern Cause and the Confederacy so often it is looked at as defending slavery.  I am sure that is true with some people..  It  is the problem with belonging to groups and organizations, that is, individual opinions of issues seem to be foregotten and individuality suffers.  Lets not forget that Lincoln, in reality,  freed no slaves during the war.  He could have in the Northern staes but did not.  I know this  sounds incorrect to some  but please research this.  Lincoln once said that when the war ends an approx. date for giving blacks freedom would be 1900.  If someone is truly interested in the causes of the war please do your research and do not take my word for it, I could provide refferences for my information but time does not allow me.  Sufface to say that I do my research and  keep an open mind.  Kevin should be commended for having this debate on this site as I believe it is very important and he is obviously well read even though we disagree on many points.  We should all respect eachothers opinions and not look down on anyone who disagrees honestly with one another!   The causes of the war will be debated from now until doomsday, perhaps that is a good thing!   Do not forget, everyone, to see the Robert Redford film &quot;The Conspiritor&quot;, should be out this month {April} in time for the Civil War anniv.  Also, Spielbergs Lincoln film is starting to take shape finnaly, should be out in early 2012.  One more thing, make sure and get to the new Gettysburg visitor center/museum that opened about 3 years ago, really interesting!  The Casino, by the way, is dead in the water. {I am a member of the Civil War Preservation group, please join if you can!}  Thanks again, Kevin, for letting me post!  Tom Jantz in Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone again!  I have written many letters regarding the Confederacy and the Confederate flag.  As I read all the letters on this site one thing stands out to me that everyone seems to agree on, that is,  nobody is condoning slavery  but simply trying to point out who is to blame and was the war needed/ justified.   I do not believe that the Northern states should have or needed to invade the Southern states for any reason.  My reasons are stated in letters I have written  when you type in &#8220;Thomas Jantz, Confederacy&#8221; When I was a child {I am now 58 years old} during the 100 anniv. of the war I would travel through the southern states with my parents and siblings.  We would stop at misc. Civil War sites that battles took place or other war related events.  I remember seeing Confederate flags in downtown areas all over the place.  In Gatlinburg, Tenn. I remember seeing flags from both sides lining the streets along with lifesize wooden cutouts of Rebel and Union soldiers and other &#8220;neet stuff&#8221; that as a kid I was thrilled with!  Those were the days before political correctness.  After the war there were  get togethers by veterans of both sides to remember the war and see their fellow soldiers who they served with again and to shake hands with and embrace the men who were once their enemy.  I hate to think that we as citizens today are somehow undoing what those old veterans did, that is, brought closure to the war as best they could.  It seems many followers of the war dismiss or justify the statemnts of Abe Lincoln before and during the war regarding black citizens and slavery in general.  Many people say that while he did make statements about blacks being inferior, wanting to send them to other countries, ending the war if he could even if slavery still exsisted, etc etc. that he evolved from those positions.  If it is true or not, why do the same people not  give southern leaders a break?  Malcom X was correct when he stated that Lincoln was not the man that most History books make him out to be.  I am not a Lincoln hater, I just think that we as Americans should stop putting people up on pedistals.  Everone is only human &#8211; everyone!  I do not think that God would have put his blessing on Northern men invading the south and killing Southern men in battle.  The institution of slavery was a problem of the whole country.  Both northern and Southern troops took great pains in making sure Mount Vernon was trated with respect when they arrived there.  Both sides saw Washington as &#8220;on their side&#8221;, Washington, the man who owned about 300 slaves.  Washington was on Confederate currency.  I have to say that so often when someone defends the Southern Cause and the Confederacy so often it is looked at as defending slavery.  I am sure that is true with some people..  It  is the problem with belonging to groups and organizations, that is, individual opinions of issues seem to be foregotten and individuality suffers.  Lets not forget that Lincoln, in reality,  freed no slaves during the war.  He could have in the Northern staes but did not.  I know this  sounds incorrect to some  but please research this.  Lincoln once said that when the war ends an approx. date for giving blacks freedom would be 1900.  If someone is truly interested in the causes of the war please do your research and do not take my word for it, I could provide refferences for my information but time does not allow me.  Sufface to say that I do my research and  keep an open mind.  Kevin should be commended for having this debate on this site as I believe it is very important and he is obviously well read even though we disagree on many points.  We should all respect eachothers opinions and not look down on anyone who disagrees honestly with one another!   The causes of the war will be debated from now until doomsday, perhaps that is a good thing!   Do not forget, everyone, to see the Robert Redford film &#8220;The Conspiritor&#8221;, should be out this month {April} in time for the Civil War anniv.  Also, Spielbergs Lincoln film is starting to take shape finnaly, should be out in early 2012.  One more thing, make sure and get to the new Gettysburg visitor center/museum that opened about 3 years ago, really interesting!  The Casino, by the way, is dead in the water. {I am a member of the Civil War Preservation group, please join if you can!}  Thanks again, Kevin, for letting me post!  Tom Jantz in Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-26388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the last point, SCV has changed enough over the last 20 years that any judgement about SCV leaders in the present doesn&#039;t necessarily imply anything about SCV members in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the last point, SCV has changed enough over the last 20 years that any judgement about SCV leaders in the present doesn&#8217;t necessarily imply anything about SCV members in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-26383</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good suggestions for further reading.  Thanks, Margaret.</description>
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		<title>By: Margaret D. Blough</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-26379</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret D. Blough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 02:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom-In addition to Kevin&#039;s reply-Historians have dealt with all of this, including Ira Berlin&#039;s &quot;Slaves Without Masters: The Free Negro in the Antebellum South&quot; and his &quot;Generations of Captivity&quot;, Peter Kolchin&#039;s &quot;American Slavery 1619-1877&quot;, William Lee Miller&#039;s masterful &quot;Arguing About Slavery&quot; (about the Gag Rule fight) Fehrenbacher&#039;s and McAfee&#039;s &quot;The Slaveholding Republic-An Account of the United States Government&#039;s Relations to Slavery&quot;, William Freehling&#039;s 2 volume &quot;Road to Disunion&quot; and his work on the Nullification Crisis, and David Grimsted&#039;s &quot;American Mobbing: 1828-1861: Toward Civil War&quot; (which, while it deals with Northern mobbing as well as Southern, goes into the suppression of opposition or even question slavery in the Deep South in the decades before the Civil War.)   As for the Constitutional issues, I&#039;d suggest Mark Neely&#039;s &quot;The Fate of Liberty: Abraham Lincoln and Civil Liberties&quot; and &quot;Southern Rights: Political Prisoners and the Myth of Confederate Constitutionalism&quot; (Neely found the records of the proceedings of the Confederate habeas corpus commissioners.)

In addition:

1. I&#039;m not aware that slaves were ever used in northern factories to any significant extent if at all.  This probably had a lot to do with the fact that the end of slavery in the North pre-dated significant industrialization.  Pennsylvania passed its first (VERY) gradual emancipation law in 1780. The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts found slavery unconstitutional under the Commonwealth&#039;s 1780 Constitution (still in effect, much amended, and written primarily by John Adams).  Vermont (originally part of New York) abolished slavery in its first (1777) Constitution before Congress passed the legislation formally admitted it into the Union as the first new (14th) state in 1791.  

2.  The tariffs closest to the beginning of the secession winter were (1) the Walker Tariff of 1846 passed with Southern Democrats dominating all branches of government and which lowered to tariffs to rates barely high enough to produce the revenue to run the government and without being protective, and (2) the Tariff of 1857 which slashed tariff rates even further to the extent that, rightly or wrongly, many Northerners blamed it for the Panic of 1857 and the ensuing depression that hit mostly non-slave states. There were tariffs that actually gave some measure of protection to significant Southern products, especially hemp and sugar.  Furthermore, in the antebellum period, tariffs were how the government raised revenue for its very limited operations.

3. The war did not begin as an effort to free the slaves. The war began due to secession which was an effort by the rebel slave states to PROTECT slavery from the perceived threat to the institution from the election of a Republican as President and an increased number of Republicans in both houses of Congress. The initial war objective of the US government was to preserve the Union; ending slavery, in part to eliminate its divisive effects, only became a war objective later.  Northern attitudes on race were complex. In the case of Illinois, it was a free state not due to its own initiatives but due to the provisions of the Northwest Ordinance, passed by the Congress under the Articles of Confederation and ratified by the first Congress under the Constitution that covered it when it was a territory.  Furthermore, the southern part of the state, known as Little Egypt, was heavily settled by migrating Southern whites.

4.  I don&#039;t know anyone on this blog or among Civil War historians who use membership in the SCV as a litmus test on character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom-In addition to Kevin&#8217;s reply-Historians have dealt with all of this, including Ira Berlin&#8217;s &#8220;Slaves Without Masters: The Free Negro in the Antebellum South&#8221; and his &#8220;Generations of Captivity&#8221;, Peter Kolchin&#8217;s &#8220;American Slavery 1619-1877&#8243;, William Lee Miller&#8217;s masterful &#8220;Arguing About Slavery&#8221; (about the Gag Rule fight) Fehrenbacher&#8217;s and McAfee&#8217;s &#8220;The Slaveholding Republic-An Account of the United States Government&#8217;s Relations to Slavery&#8221;, William Freehling&#8217;s 2 volume &#8220;Road to Disunion&#8221; and his work on the Nullification Crisis, and David Grimsted&#8217;s &#8220;American Mobbing: 1828-1861: Toward Civil War&#8221; (which, while it deals with Northern mobbing as well as Southern, goes into the suppression of opposition or even question slavery in the Deep South in the decades before the Civil War.)   As for the Constitutional issues, I&#8217;d suggest Mark Neely&#8217;s &#8220;The Fate of Liberty: Abraham Lincoln and Civil Liberties&#8221; and &#8220;Southern Rights: Political Prisoners and the Myth of Confederate Constitutionalism&#8221; (Neely found the records of the proceedings of the Confederate habeas corpus commissioners.)</p>
<p>In addition:</p>
<p>1. I&#8217;m not aware that slaves were ever used in northern factories to any significant extent if at all.  This probably had a lot to do with the fact that the end of slavery in the North pre-dated significant industrialization.  Pennsylvania passed its first (VERY) gradual emancipation law in 1780. The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts found slavery unconstitutional under the Commonwealth&#8217;s 1780 Constitution (still in effect, much amended, and written primarily by John Adams).  Vermont (originally part of New York) abolished slavery in its first (1777) Constitution before Congress passed the legislation formally admitted it into the Union as the first new (14th) state in 1791.  </p>
<p>2.  The tariffs closest to the beginning of the secession winter were (1) the Walker Tariff of 1846 passed with Southern Democrats dominating all branches of government and which lowered to tariffs to rates barely high enough to produce the revenue to run the government and without being protective, and (2) the Tariff of 1857 which slashed tariff rates even further to the extent that, rightly or wrongly, many Northerners blamed it for the Panic of 1857 and the ensuing depression that hit mostly non-slave states. There were tariffs that actually gave some measure of protection to significant Southern products, especially hemp and sugar.  Furthermore, in the antebellum period, tariffs were how the government raised revenue for its very limited operations.</p>
<p>3. The war did not begin as an effort to free the slaves. The war began due to secession which was an effort by the rebel slave states to PROTECT slavery from the perceived threat to the institution from the election of a Republican as President and an increased number of Republicans in both houses of Congress. The initial war objective of the US government was to preserve the Union; ending slavery, in part to eliminate its divisive effects, only became a war objective later.  Northern attitudes on race were complex. In the case of Illinois, it was a free state not due to its own initiatives but due to the provisions of the Northwest Ordinance, passed by the Congress under the Articles of Confederation and ratified by the first Congress under the Constitution that covered it when it was a territory.  Furthermore, the southern part of the state, known as Little Egypt, was heavily settled by migrating Southern whites.</p>
<p>4.  I don&#8217;t know anyone on this blog or among Civil War historians who use membership in the SCV as a litmus test on character.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-26378</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 01:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

You are asking a number of interesting questions about Lincoln and race in the North.  Where did you get your 10,000 black slaveowners from?  Please provide the source.  On Lincoln I would recommend starting with David Donald&#039;s biography, _Lincoln_.  You may also want to check out Eric Foner&#039;s new study of Lincoln, race and slavery, _The Fiery Trial_.  The book also goes into great detail into some of your other questions re: slavery in the North.  On Sherman I recommend John Marszalek&#039;s, _Sherman: A Soldiers Passion For Order_.  Happy reading and thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>You are asking a number of interesting questions about Lincoln and race in the North.  Where did you get your 10,000 black slaveowners from?  Please provide the source.  On Lincoln I would recommend starting with David Donald&#8217;s biography, _Lincoln_.  You may also want to check out Eric Foner&#8217;s new study of Lincoln, race and slavery, _The Fiery Trial_.  The book also goes into great detail into some of your other questions re: slavery in the North.  On Sherman I recommend John Marszalek&#8217;s, _Sherman: A Soldiers Passion For Order_.  Happy reading and thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jantz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!  Thanks for the opportunity to write in.  I respect everyones comment on the Civil war and slavery but I have some questions.  How many slaves did the Noertherners sell the Southern plantation owners when the Norths factories did not need them anymore because it was found that hiring immigrants and children was cheaper?  Why did Lincoln want to send all the freed slaves to other countries after the war was supposed to be about slavery?  Why was Union General Sherman not an abolishionist , did he not believe in the cause?  How is it the war was supposed to be about preserving the Union but at the same time the Constitution was trampled on, is not that an oximoron?  If the Northern people were so concerned about black people then why were there several race riots during the war?  What about the estimated 10,000 freed blacks in the South who owned slaves?  Why did the people of the state of Ilinoise, a Northern free state, attempt to ban blacks from moving into that state, would not that be counter to what they were supposed to be fighting for?  What about the prewar tarriffs levied on the Southern states before the war that would have benefitted mostly Northern staets and Rich Northerners?  What about former Pres. Harry S Truman being a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the man who desegregated the armed forces, was he really a bad guy?  If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were alive at the time of the Civil War would the Northern troops have burned down their slave plantations and condemned them?  Was the &quot;stain&quot; of slavery transferred to the Confederate flag so Northerners and the Country as a whole could feel better about themselves?  How was  the average Southerner at the time of the war resposible for slavery and how could they have ended it besides joining one of the over 100 antislavery groups that exsisted at the time of the pre Civil War in the Southern States?  These are just some of the many questions that should be asked by Historians.  Thanks for your time, hope all is well!  Tom Jantz in Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!  Thanks for the opportunity to write in.  I respect everyones comment on the Civil war and slavery but I have some questions.  How many slaves did the Noertherners sell the Southern plantation owners when the Norths factories did not need them anymore because it was found that hiring immigrants and children was cheaper?  Why did Lincoln want to send all the freed slaves to other countries after the war was supposed to be about slavery?  Why was Union General Sherman not an abolishionist , did he not believe in the cause?  How is it the war was supposed to be about preserving the Union but at the same time the Constitution was trampled on, is not that an oximoron?  If the Northern people were so concerned about black people then why were there several race riots during the war?  What about the estimated 10,000 freed blacks in the South who owned slaves?  Why did the people of the state of Ilinoise, a Northern free state, attempt to ban blacks from moving into that state, would not that be counter to what they were supposed to be fighting for?  What about the prewar tarriffs levied on the Southern states before the war that would have benefitted mostly Northern staets and Rich Northerners?  What about former Pres. Harry S Truman being a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the man who desegregated the armed forces, was he really a bad guy?  If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were alive at the time of the Civil War would the Northern troops have burned down their slave plantations and condemned them?  Was the &#8220;stain&#8221; of slavery transferred to the Confederate flag so Northerners and the Country as a whole could feel better about themselves?  How was  the average Southerner at the time of the war resposible for slavery and how could they have ended it besides joining one of the over 100 antislavery groups that exsisted at the time of the pre Civil War in the Southern States?  These are just some of the many questions that should be asked by Historians.  Thanks for your time, hope all is well!  Tom Jantz in Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hall</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-23622</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are going to bankrupt me.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-23621</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonner&#039;s book is excellent.  He spends a great deal of time focusing on issues related to Confederate nationalism.</description>
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		<title>By: Dick Stanley</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-23618</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coski&#039;s book is really evenhanded and interesting. Never heard of Bonner&#039;s, so thanks for the tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coski&#8217;s book is really evenhanded and interesting. Never heard of Bonner&#8217;s, so thanks for the tip.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/06/11/the-future-of-the-confederate-flag/#comment-23602</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I am very serious.  If you have any doubts please read John Coski&#039;s, _The Confederate Battle Flag_ (Harvard University Press) http://www.amazon.com/Confederate-Battle-Flag-Americas-Embattled/dp/0674019830/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1294138280&amp;sr=8-1 and Robert Bonner&#039;s _Colors and Blood_ http://www.amazon.com/Colors-Blood-Passions-Confederate-South/dp/069111949X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1294138327&amp;sr=1-1 

Everyone is biased in the way we look at and interpret sources.  The issue for me is whether the individual can apply a certain historical method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am very serious.  If you have any doubts please read John Coski&#8217;s, _The Confederate Battle Flag_ (Harvard University Press) <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Confederate-Battle-Flag-Americas-Embattled/dp/0674019830/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1294138280&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Confederate-Battle-Flag-Americas-Embattled/dp/0674019830/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1294138280&#038;sr=8-1</a> and Robert Bonner&#8217;s _Colors and Blood_ <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Colors-Blood-Passions-Confederate-South/dp/069111949X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1294138327&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Colors-Blood-Passions-Confederate-South/dp/069111949X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1294138327&#038;sr=1-1</a> </p>
<p>Everyone is biased in the way we look at and interpret sources.  The issue for me is whether the individual can apply a certain historical method.</p>
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