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	<title>Comments on: Update on Jefferson Davis&#8217;s Crown of Thorns</title>
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		<title>By: History (humanitarian and related)</title>
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		<dc:creator>History (humanitarian and related)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On May 19, 1865, Davis was imprisoned in a casemate at Fortress Monroe, on the coast of Virginia. He was placed in irons for three days. Davis was indicted for treason a year later. While in prison, Davis arranged to sell his Mississippi estate to one of his former slaves, Ben Montgomery. After two years of imprisonment, he was released on bail of $100,000 which was posted by prominent citizens of both Northern and Southern states, including Horace Greeley, Cornelius Vanderbilt and Gerrit Smith (Smith, a former member of the Secret Six, had supported John Brown). Davis visited Canada, Cuba and Europe. In December 1868 the court rejected a motion to nullify the indictment, but the prosecution dropped the case in February 1869. That same year, Davis became president of the Carolina Life Insurance Company in Memphis, Tennessee. He turned down the opportunity to become the first president of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas (now Texas A&amp;M University). In 1876, he promoted a society for the stimulation of U.S. trade with South America. Davis visited England the next year, returning in 1878 to Beauvoir. Over the next three years there, Davis wrote The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. An often cited (though now proven to be false) story is that while in prison Pope Pius IX sent Davis a portrait of himself (with the words &#8220;Venite ad me omnes qui laboratis, et ego reficiam vos, dicit Dominus&#8221; (Come to me all ye who labor and are heavy burdened and I will give you rest, sayeth the Lord-Matthew 11:28) along with a crown of thorns woven by the pope himself. Pius did indeed send Davis his portrait. It has now been proven by several sources that the crown of thorns was woven by his wife Varina.[4] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On May 19, 1865, Davis was imprisoned in a casemate at Fortress Monroe, on the coast of Virginia. He was placed in irons for three days. Davis was indicted for treason a year later. While in prison, Davis arranged to sell his Mississippi estate to one of his former slaves, Ben Montgomery. After two years of imprisonment, he was released on bail of $100,000 which was posted by prominent citizens of both Northern and Southern states, including Horace Greeley, Cornelius Vanderbilt and Gerrit Smith (Smith, a former member of the Secret Six, had supported John Brown). Davis visited Canada, Cuba and Europe. In December 1868 the court rejected a motion to nullify the indictment, but the prosecution dropped the case in February 1869. That same year, Davis became president of the Carolina Life Insurance Company in Memphis, Tennessee. He turned down the opportunity to become the first president of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas (now Texas A&amp;M University). In 1876, he promoted a society for the stimulation of U.S. trade with South America. Davis visited England the next year, returning in 1878 to Beauvoir. Over the next three years there, Davis wrote The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. An often cited (though now proven to be false) story is that while in prison Pope Pius IX sent Davis a portrait of himself (with the words &#8220;Venite ad me omnes qui laboratis, et ego reficiam vos, dicit Dominus&#8221; (Come to me all ye who labor and are heavy burdened and I will give you rest, sayeth the Lord-Matthew 11:28) along with a crown of thorns woven by the pope himself. Pius did indeed send Davis his portrait. It has now been proven by several sources that the crown of thorns was woven by his wife Varina.[4] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson Davis and the Crown of Thorns &#171; The American Catholic</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-17930</link>
		<dc:creator>Jefferson Davis and the Crown of Thorns &#171; The American Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The crown of thorns was woven by Varinia Davis, the wife of Jefferson Davis.  Over time the story grew up, perhaps through honest mistake, that associated the crown with the Pope.  A good article on the subject is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The crown of thorns was woven by Varinia Davis, the wife of Jefferson Davis.  Over time the story grew up, perhaps through honest mistake, that associated the crown with the Pope.  A good article on the subject is here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson Davis and the Crown of Thorns &#171; Almost Chosen People</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-13263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jefferson Davis and the Crown of Thorns &#171; Almost Chosen People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] honest mistake, that associated the crown with the Pope.  A good article on the subject is here.  Published [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] honest mistake, that associated the crown with the Pope.  A good article on the subject is here.  Published [...]</p>
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		<title>By: msimons</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11366</link>
		<dc:creator>msimons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that it is nice to get new insights into the Civil war and its post-war history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that it is nice to get new insights into the Civil war and its post-war history.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11360</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we are talking about the issue of the Vatican and Confederacy Govt we are entering in a realm of truth, half truths , and down right myth. Much of the Pope&#039;s intentions is based on mere speculation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It should not be forgotten that the Vatican as well as Europe was kepping a eye on the United States. Or at this time still Catholicism had a Southern flair to it and up to this point had been a mostly Southern Church. Jefferson Davis would have been on their radar for some time. He was friendly to Catholics , and in fact in school begged to convert, and of course was Senator from a State that had early historic Catholic ties.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I expect the appreciation that the Pope is showing has a lot to do that Jefferson , like Lincoln and his successor, were very vocal in opposing the Know Nothing movement in the 1850s&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The interaction of the Vatican with the Confederate States , contrary to myth there was never an official recognition, had more to do with the Vatican wanting to end a war that destructive to their flock on both sides and the fact that the Vatican of course wanted to have Confederate Catholic Soliders tended to in the field.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JH&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opinionatedcatholic.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.opinionatedcatholic.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we are talking about the issue of the Vatican and Confederacy Govt we are entering in a realm of truth, half truths , and down right myth. Much of the Pope&#39;s intentions is based on mere speculation.</p>
<p>It should not be forgotten that the Vatican as well as Europe was kepping a eye on the United States. Or at this time still Catholicism had a Southern flair to it and up to this point had been a mostly Southern Church. Jefferson Davis would have been on their radar for some time. He was friendly to Catholics , and in fact in school begged to convert, and of course was Senator from a State that had early historic Catholic ties.</p>
<p>I expect the appreciation that the Pope is showing has a lot to do that Jefferson , like Lincoln and his successor, were very vocal in opposing the Know Nothing movement in the 1850s</p>
<p>The interaction of the Vatican with the Confederate States , contrary to myth there was never an official recognition, had more to do with the Vatican wanting to end a war that destructive to their flock on both sides and the fact that the Vatican of course wanted to have Confederate Catholic Soliders tended to in the field.</p>
<p>JH<br /><a href="http://www.opinionatedcatholic.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.opinionatedcatholic.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11353</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glad to hear that you found this to be of some interest.  I would remind you and everyone else, however, that it does not necessarily represent a final word on the subject.  Research is being carried out by a number of different parties so I suspect that we will learn more in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you found this to be of some interest.  I would remind you and everyone else, however, that it does not necessarily represent a final word on the subject.  Research is being carried out by a number of different parties so I suspect that we will learn more in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: msimons</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11351</link>
		<dc:creator>msimons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing that Kevin I had heard  that story for years and on the surface had accepted it as fact.   Nothing like getting the Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing that Kevin I had heard  that story for years and on the surface had accepted it as fact.   Nothing like getting the Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11348</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the additional information.  You may be right that the Pope viewed Davis as a kindred spirit.  It&#039;s an interesting story that I suspect most people know little about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional information.  You may be right that the Pope viewed Davis as a kindred spirit.  It&#39;s an interesting story that I suspect most people know little about.</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/09/27/update-on-jefferson-daviss-crown-of-thorns/#comment-11346</link>
		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worthwhile reading the biography of Pius IX on Wikipedia. Pius may have seen Davis as a kindred spirit. Exercpt:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Legacy&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Pius IX celebrated his silver jubilee in 1871, going on to have the longest reign in the history of the post-apostolic papacy, 31 years, 7 months and 23 days. As he lost temporal sovereignty, the Roman Catholic Church rallied around him, the papacy became more centralized, to which his personal life-style of simplicity and poverty is considered to have contributed.[112] From this point on, the papacy became and continues to become more and more a spiritual, and less a temporal, authority. Pius IX&#039;s pontificate marks the beginning of the modern papacy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After starting out as a liberal, Pius IX turned conservative after being thrown out of Rome. Thereafter, he was considered politically conservative, but a restless and radical reformer and innovator of Church life and structures. Church life, religious vocations, new foundations and religious enthousiasm all flourished at the end of his pontificate.[101][113] Politically, his pontificate ended with the isolation of the papacy from most major powers of the world: &quot;The prisoner of the Vatican&quot; had poor relations with Russia, Germany, and the United States, poor relations with France and open hostility with Italy. Yet he was most popular with the faithful in all these countries, in many of which Pope Pius associations were formed in his support. He made lasting Church history with his 1854 infallible decision of the Immaculate Conception, which was the basis for the later dogma on the Assumption. His other lasting contribution is the invocation of the ecumenical council Vatican One, which promulgated the definition of Papal Infallibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worthwhile reading the biography of Pius IX on Wikipedia. Pius may have seen Davis as a kindred spirit. Exercpt:</p>
<p>Legacy</p>
<p>Pius IX celebrated his silver jubilee in 1871, going on to have the longest reign in the history of the post-apostolic papacy, 31 years, 7 months and 23 days. As he lost temporal sovereignty, the Roman Catholic Church rallied around him, the papacy became more centralized, to which his personal life-style of simplicity and poverty is considered to have contributed.[112] From this point on, the papacy became and continues to become more and more a spiritual, and less a temporal, authority. Pius IX&#39;s pontificate marks the beginning of the modern papacy.</p>
<p>After starting out as a liberal, Pius IX turned conservative after being thrown out of Rome. Thereafter, he was considered politically conservative, but a restless and radical reformer and innovator of Church life and structures. Church life, religious vocations, new foundations and religious enthousiasm all flourished at the end of his pontificate.[101][113] Politically, his pontificate ended with the isolation of the papacy from most major powers of the world: &#8220;The prisoner of the Vatican&#8221; had poor relations with Russia, Germany, and the United States, poor relations with France and open hostility with Italy. Yet he was most popular with the faithful in all these countries, in many of which Pope Pius associations were formed in his support. He made lasting Church history with his 1854 infallible decision of the Immaculate Conception, which was the basis for the later dogma on the Assumption. His other lasting contribution is the invocation of the ecumenical council Vatican One, which promulgated the definition of Papal Infallibility.</p>
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