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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12860</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO... Terms like &quot;Political correctness &quot;, &quot;Socialism&quot; ,&quot;Racism&quot;, &quot;Secularism &quot; and many others are hurled into discussions much to often.  Not that they do not exist, but they have been over used to the point they have little  impact  left.  They have become political wild cards and over used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO&#8230; Terms like &#8220;Political correctness &#8220;, &#8220;Socialism&#8221; ,&#8221;Racism&#8221;, &#8220;Secularism &#8221; and many others are hurled into discussions much to often.  Not that they do not exist, but they have been over used to the point they have little  impact  left.  They have become political wild cards and over used.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12329</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO... Terms like &quot;Political correctness &quot;, &quot;Socialism&quot; ,&quot;Racism&quot;, &quot;Secularism &quot; and many others are hurled into discussions much to often.  Not that they do not exist, but they have been over used to the point they have little  impact  left.  They have become political wild cards and over used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO&#8230; Terms like &#8220;Political correctness &#8220;, &#8220;Socialism&#8221; ,&#8221;Racism&#8221;, &#8220;Secularism &#8221; and many others are hurled into discussions much to often.  Not that they do not exist, but they have been over used to the point they have little  impact  left.  They have become political wild cards and over used.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12207</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By definition I think that those things we choose to focus on are &quot;the result of personal interest.&quot;  Other than that I&#039;m not sure how to respond to this comment, assuming it is being directed to me.  I&#039;m not sure what it has to do with the post.  Perhaps you can clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By definition I think that those things we choose to focus on are &#8220;the result of personal interest.&#8221;  Other than that I&#39;m not sure how to respond to this comment, assuming it is being directed to me.  I&#39;m not sure what it has to do with the post.  Perhaps you can clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12206</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered the possibility that a focus on military history might be the result of personal interest, rather than a conscious/unconscious decision to ignore the contributions of marginalized demographics?  You&#039;re almost suggesting that students of the war are being elitists by deciding what they&#039;re interested in studying.  Isn&#039;t it sometimes a matter of personal taste/interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered the possibility that a focus on military history might be the result of personal interest, rather than a conscious/unconscious decision to ignore the contributions of marginalized demographics?  You&#39;re almost suggesting that students of the war are being elitists by deciding what they&#39;re interested in studying.  Isn&#39;t it sometimes a matter of personal taste/interest?</p>
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		<title>By: msimons</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12191</link>
		<dc:creator>msimons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherree I agree it is deplorable that any Child within the borders of the USA goes to bed hungery!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherree I agree it is deplorable that any Child within the borders of the USA goes to bed hungery!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12156</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t have said it any better.  It is, however, difficult to understand how the PC rhetoric is used in each instance.  Sometimes it does seem to be a reflection of a politicized view of the study of history and other times it is thrown around in a desperate attempt to make sense of something that you are clearly unfamiliar and uncomfortable with.  I think this is a case of the latter.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry to have missed you at the Southern.  Hope all is well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#39;t have said it any better.  It is, however, difficult to understand how the PC rhetoric is used in each instance.  Sometimes it does seem to be a reflection of a politicized view of the study of history and other times it is thrown around in a desperate attempt to make sense of something that you are clearly unfamiliar and uncomfortable with.  I think this is a case of the latter.  </p>
<p>Sorry to have missed you at the Southern.  Hope all is well.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12154</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going along with this point, it seems that many of the people who go on about political correctness view history as a way to buttress their own dogma. History for them serves to buttress what they already believe, and thus they interpret everyone else in this light. They either won&#039;t or can&#039;t conceive that history does something other than confirm and support preexisting notions.  In other words, they assume that everyone else adopts a similar process, and that the point of history is to serve only presentist grounds and add rhetorical support for a current political agenda. I think this is why &quot;PC&quot; is such a touchstone for them, because they can point to it and say &quot;You are just trying to impose your dogma on me.&quot; Note that when pressed to provide evidence beyond a tiresome and continual resort to Zinn, the next step in the argument becomes &quot;you are wrong and I can&#039;t argue anymore because I don&#039;t have evidence, so we will just have to agree to disagree&quot; or &quot;you are an academic and thus anything you say is tainted. And the bogeyman shifts when you, Kevin, point out that you are not a professor, they proclaim &quot;well, you are an elitist and thus everything you say is tainted.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going along with this point, it seems that many of the people who go on about political correctness view history as a way to buttress their own dogma. History for them serves to buttress what they already believe, and thus they interpret everyone else in this light. They either won&#39;t or can&#39;t conceive that history does something other than confirm and support preexisting notions.  In other words, they assume that everyone else adopts a similar process, and that the point of history is to serve only presentist grounds and add rhetorical support for a current political agenda. I think this is why &#8220;PC&#8221; is such a touchstone for them, because they can point to it and say &#8220;You are just trying to impose your dogma on me.&#8221; Note that when pressed to provide evidence beyond a tiresome and continual resort to Zinn, the next step in the argument becomes &#8220;you are wrong and I can&#39;t argue anymore because I don&#39;t have evidence, so we will just have to agree to disagree&#8221; or &#8220;you are an academic and thus anything you say is tainted. And the bogeyman shifts when you, Kevin, point out that you are not a professor, they proclaim &#8220;well, you are an elitist and thus everything you say is tainted.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sherree</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12144</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting conversation lately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with Margaret&#039;s statement that the Civil War was more of  a Greek tragedy than a morality play. I also agree with the following statement that Brooks made: &quot;Moral judgment should not drive the narrative. But one can draw judgments from the findings and interpretations that emerge from one&#039;s research. However, rarely are they simple ones.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been thinking about the concept of memory quite a bit, and how our memory of the past helps to shape the present. I am on a somewhat different track than most of your readers, however, so I have hesitated to comment.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I linked to the exhibit in New York that you posted, in which the newly rediscovered &quot;Negro burial ground&quot; where many of the men and women of colonial New York&#039;s slave population were buried. That exhibit is a powerful statement to yet another area of our nation&#039;s collective amnesia. I can&#039;t quite shake the specter of the forgotten past that haunts one of our nation&#039;s most vibrant cities. A literal earthen wall was built by the forced labor of slaves in order to protect white colonial inhabitants from indigenous populations and rival white colonists. This is how Wall Street got its name. In addition, the four hundred graves of slaves that were unearthed revealed that the institution of slavery was just as brutal in New York as it was in Charleston. Many of the remains reveal lives of excruciating hard labor. Also, many of the graves are of children. Further, the forced labor of slaves helped to make New York the internationally important city that it became, as well as the critical financial partner for the building of the institution of slavery in America, and the building of enormous wealth in both the United States and Europe.  As we approach the sesquicentennial, are we to remember this part of our history, or will we be confined to the years 1861-1865? Four millions slaves did not just appear in the South. They were kidnapped and brutalized by Americans from both the South and the North, and by Europeans, and then forcibly brought to America. It seems that to fully understand our history, that this part of the history must be dealt with as well, as we consider the national tragedy that slavery--and the Civil War that was fought to finally end it--represent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope we do remember, since the present is indeed influenced by our memory of the past.  Some of the changes that current politicians are attempting to bring about deal directly with the legacies of the past, and specifically with the legacy of the distribution of wealth in our nation. That cannot be clear to the white population, however, unless the white population understands how we got to this point. The majority of African American men and women and indigenous men and women have a standard of living that is so far below that of white men and women, that most white men and women cannot fully comprehend the scope of the disparity. As we prepare for Thanksgiving, in many African American communities across the nation, and in indigenous reserves in Canada and reservations in the United States, children are freezing to death and starving.  That&#039;s right. Children are starving--some of them relatives of a close friend of mine.. These facts are direct results of past actions of both nations. Just because the US elected our first African American President, those facts have not changed. The point is not to assign blame or guilt, but to fix the problem.     &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t even know how to respond to a claim that slavery in the South wasn&#039;t as brutal as overwhelming evidence to the contrary conclusively proves that it was.  From all that I continue to read, slavery was brutal wherever it was instituted, except, perhaps, in the homes of free black men and women who saved family members when they were presented with the rare opportunity to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Interesting conversation lately.</p>
<p>I agree with Margaret&#39;s statement that the Civil War was more of  a Greek tragedy than a morality play. I also agree with the following statement that Brooks made: &#8220;Moral judgment should not drive the narrative. But one can draw judgments from the findings and interpretations that emerge from one&#39;s research. However, rarely are they simple ones.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have been thinking about the concept of memory quite a bit, and how our memory of the past helps to shape the present. I am on a somewhat different track than most of your readers, however, so I have hesitated to comment.   </p>
<p>I linked to the exhibit in New York that you posted, in which the newly rediscovered &#8220;Negro burial ground&#8221; where many of the men and women of colonial New York&#39;s slave population were buried. That exhibit is a powerful statement to yet another area of our nation&#39;s collective amnesia. I can&#39;t quite shake the specter of the forgotten past that haunts one of our nation&#39;s most vibrant cities. A literal earthen wall was built by the forced labor of slaves in order to protect white colonial inhabitants from indigenous populations and rival white colonists. This is how Wall Street got its name. In addition, the four hundred graves of slaves that were unearthed revealed that the institution of slavery was just as brutal in New York as it was in Charleston. Many of the remains reveal lives of excruciating hard labor. Also, many of the graves are of children. Further, the forced labor of slaves helped to make New York the internationally important city that it became, as well as the critical financial partner for the building of the institution of slavery in America, and the building of enormous wealth in both the United States and Europe.  As we approach the sesquicentennial, are we to remember this part of our history, or will we be confined to the years 1861-1865? Four millions slaves did not just appear in the South. They were kidnapped and brutalized by Americans from both the South and the North, and by Europeans, and then forcibly brought to America. It seems that to fully understand our history, that this part of the history must be dealt with as well, as we consider the national tragedy that slavery&#8211;and the Civil War that was fought to finally end it&#8211;represent. </p>
<p>I hope we do remember, since the present is indeed influenced by our memory of the past.  Some of the changes that current politicians are attempting to bring about deal directly with the legacies of the past, and specifically with the legacy of the distribution of wealth in our nation. That cannot be clear to the white population, however, unless the white population understands how we got to this point. The majority of African American men and women and indigenous men and women have a standard of living that is so far below that of white men and women, that most white men and women cannot fully comprehend the scope of the disparity. As we prepare for Thanksgiving, in many African American communities across the nation, and in indigenous reserves in Canada and reservations in the United States, children are freezing to death and starving.  That&#39;s right. Children are starving&#8211;some of them relatives of a close friend of mine.. These facts are direct results of past actions of both nations. Just because the US elected our first African American President, those facts have not changed. The point is not to assign blame or guilt, but to fix the problem.     </p>
<p>I don&#39;t even know how to respond to a claim that slavery in the South wasn&#39;t as brutal as overwhelming evidence to the contrary conclusively proves that it was.  From all that I continue to read, slavery was brutal wherever it was instituted, except, perhaps, in the homes of free black men and women who saved family members when they were presented with the rare opportunity to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: margaretdblough</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12148</link>
		<dc:creator>margaretdblough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points.</description>
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		<title>By: margaretdblough</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12147</link>
		<dc:creator>margaretdblough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some people who definitely fall into the only wanting to look at the privileged.  But I really feel a lot of it is that it is an aversion to facing the complexities that lie outside the safe perimeter of who shot who where. White CW veterans on both sides who favored the reconciliationist narrative helped establish that perimeter in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some people who definitely fall into the only wanting to look at the privileged.  But I really feel a lot of it is that it is an aversion to facing the complexities that lie outside the safe perimeter of who shot who where. White CW veterans on both sides who favored the reconciliationist narrative helped establish that perimeter in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/13/do-i-suffer-from-pcm-disease/#comment-12146</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but at least Nixon had a list.  These guys are content with rolling around in vague/meaningless characterizations.  I can&#039;t help but think that there is a certain amount of insecurity/defensiveness at work here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but at least Nixon had a list.  These guys are content with rolling around in vague/meaningless characterizations.  I can&#39;t help but think that there is a certain amount of insecurity/defensiveness at work here.</p>
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		<title>By: margaretdblough</title>
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		<dc:creator>margaretdblough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sort of like being on Nixon&#039;s Enemies List.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s sort of like being on Nixon&#39;s Enemies List.</p>
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