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		<title>By: jfahler</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12853</link>
		<dc:creator>jfahler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I, as a teacher of both Pre-AP and &quot;regular&quot; freshmen at a public high school, can see what Dreyfuss is saying, I have to see it from a balanced point of view. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On one hand, the traditionalist in me bemoans the lack of interest in education on the part of the average teenager.  Yet, instead of worrying about the &quot;commies in the USSR,&quot; I&#039;m concerned about the ones in China (1.3 billion of them - and note that my tongue is firmly placed in my cheek here ;)... in other words, do American high school students have what it takes to compete on the world stage, with test score comparisons as they are?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it was Cornell West in _Race Matters_ who tried to address this problem with African-Americans - and pointed the finger at mass media.  It&#039;s interesting that the biggest impediment to me in the classroom... mass media... is also my greatest tool.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For this reason, I am also optimistic.  I just ask for balance.  And (in response to G falls), have to point the finger away from the overworked teacher and to the underinvolved parent.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, Dreyfuss DOES have an amazing voice.  I&#039;d put him in for a #2 spot for narrating my life or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I, as a teacher of both Pre-AP and &#8220;regular&#8221; freshmen at a public high school, can see what Dreyfuss is saying, I have to see it from a balanced point of view. </p>
<p>On one hand, the traditionalist in me bemoans the lack of interest in education on the part of the average teenager.  Yet, instead of worrying about the &#8220;commies in the USSR,&#8221; I&#39;m concerned about the ones in China (1.3 billion of them &#8211; and note that my tongue is firmly placed in my cheek here <img src='http://cwmemory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; in other words, do American high school students have what it takes to compete on the world stage, with test score comparisons as they are?</p>
<p>I think it was Cornell West in _Race Matters_ who tried to address this problem with African-Americans &#8211; and pointed the finger at mass media.  It&#39;s interesting that the biggest impediment to me in the classroom&#8230; mass media&#8230; is also my greatest tool.  </p>
<p>For this reason, I am also optimistic.  I just ask for balance.  And (in response to G falls), have to point the finger away from the overworked teacher and to the underinvolved parent.  </p>
<p>At the same time, Dreyfuss DOES have an amazing voice.  I&#39;d put him in for a #2 spot for narrating my life or something.</p>
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		<title>By: jfahler</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12628</link>
		<dc:creator>jfahler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I, as a teacher of both Pre-AP and &quot;regular&quot; freshmen at a public high school, can see what Dreyfuss is saying, I have to see it from a balanced point of view. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On one hand, the traditionalist in me bemoans the lack of interest in education on the part of the average teenager.  Yet, instead of worrying about the &quot;commies in the USSR,&quot; I&#039;m concerned about the ones in China (1.3 billion of them - and note that my tongue is firmly placed in my cheek here ;)... in other words, do American high school students have what it takes to compete on the world stage, with test score comparisons as they are?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it was Cornell West in _Race Matters_ who tried to address this problem with African-Americans - and pointed the finger at mass media.  It&#039;s interesting that the biggest impediment to me in the classroom... mass media... is also my greatest tool.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For this reason, I am also optimistic.  I just ask for balance.  And (in response to G falls), have to point the finger away from the overworked teacher and to the underinvolved parent.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, Dreyfuss DOES have an amazing voice.  I&#039;d put him in for a #2 spot for narrating my life or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I, as a teacher of both Pre-AP and &#8220;regular&#8221; freshmen at a public high school, can see what Dreyfuss is saying, I have to see it from a balanced point of view. </p>
<p>On one hand, the traditionalist in me bemoans the lack of interest in education on the part of the average teenager.  Yet, instead of worrying about the &#8220;commies in the USSR,&#8221; I&#39;m concerned about the ones in China (1.3 billion of them &#8211; and note that my tongue is firmly placed in my cheek here <img src='http://cwmemory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; in other words, do American high school students have what it takes to compete on the world stage, with test score comparisons as they are?</p>
<p>I think it was Cornell West in _Race Matters_ who tried to address this problem with African-Americans &#8211; and pointed the finger at mass media.  It&#39;s interesting that the biggest impediment to me in the classroom&#8230; mass media&#8230; is also my greatest tool.  </p>
<p>For this reason, I am also optimistic.  I just ask for balance.  And (in response to G falls), have to point the finger away from the overworked teacher and to the underinvolved parent.  </p>
<p>At the same time, Dreyfuss DOES have an amazing voice.  I&#39;d put him in for a #2 spot for narrating my life or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12481</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to comment.  I teach high school history so I am in the trenches, along with thousands of other teachers, every day working together to educate.  My critical pen is a reflection of just how much I care about these issues.  I do believe that Dreyfuss has a point, but unfortunately, he has difficulty expressing it in front of the very audience that he hopes to excite.  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to comment.  I teach high school history so I am in the trenches, along with thousands of other teachers, every day working together to educate.  My critical pen is a reflection of just how much I care about these issues.  I do believe that Dreyfuss has a point, but unfortunately, he has difficulty expressing it in front of the very audience that he hopes to excite.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Areal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Areal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why so much on the attack?&lt;br&gt;The man has a point.  He is dead on.&lt;br&gt;Maybe you should take the initiative, and  ask ...what you don&#039;t see or understand clearly? &lt;br&gt;It&#039;s as simple as the words he says on Maher&#039;s you tube.  Think!&lt;br&gt;Oh,  and put away your slashing red pen. You will serve any case better by offering help and assistance, wisdom and knowledge,  not trifle.&lt;br&gt;Everything has to start somewhere...  why not work together as Americans, and turn the light on!&lt;br&gt;It is about you too,  author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why so much on the attack?<br />The man has a point.  He is dead on.<br />Maybe you should take the initiative, and  ask &#8230;what you don&#39;t see or understand clearly? <br />It&#39;s as simple as the words he says on Maher&#39;s you tube.  Think!<br />Oh,  and put away your slashing red pen. You will serve any case better by offering help and assistance, wisdom and knowledge,  not trifle.<br />Everything has to start somewhere&#8230;  why not work together as Americans, and turn the light on!<br />It is about you too,  author.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12400</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right.  He received a standing ovation for a speech that included the passage cited in the post.  I apologize for the confusion.  The other claim is perhaps a bit harsh, but I don&#039;t think it reduces it in the way you claim.  I&#039;ve already said that I support anyone who is interested in improving education across this nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s right.  He received a standing ovation for a speech that included the passage cited in the post.  I apologize for the confusion.  The other claim is perhaps a bit harsh, but I don&#39;t think it reduces it in the way you claim.  I&#39;ve already said that I support anyone who is interested in improving education across this nation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Stoudt</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12399</link>
		<dc:creator>John Stoudt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I am recalling the _Gettysburg Times_ article correctly, it states that Mr. Dreyfuss received a standing ovation after his speech; the ovation was not done in reference to that single sentence.  If that is the case, then I would not worry about the siginificance of it.  I have attended several Dedication Day speeches, some better than others, and I think that all of the speakers received an ovation, at least out of courtesy if not for anything else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding your opinion that &quot;. . . they are already dead to the world,&quot; isn&#039;t that a bit harsh?  It almost reduces your commentary to an &quot;us vs. them&quot; argument.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the link to Mr. Dreyfuss&#039; website.  It does appear to be rather sparse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:</p>
<p>If I am recalling the _Gettysburg Times_ article correctly, it states that Mr. Dreyfuss received a standing ovation after his speech; the ovation was not done in reference to that single sentence.  If that is the case, then I would not worry about the siginificance of it.  I have attended several Dedication Day speeches, some better than others, and I think that all of the speakers received an ovation, at least out of courtesy if not for anything else.</p>
<p>Regarding your opinion that &#8220;. . . they are already dead to the world,&#8221; isn&#39;t that a bit harsh?  It almost reduces your commentary to an &#8220;us vs. them&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to Mr. Dreyfuss&#39; website.  It does appear to be rather sparse.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks D. Simpson</title>
		<link>http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/22/hey-dreyfuss-leave-them-kids-alone/#comment-12395</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks D. Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You and your ignorant ilk are the cause for the brainless wonders that are coming out of schools today. This country is doomed as long as their are teachers (jokes for making a living) like you.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Funny, but I always thought parents had something to do with their children&#039;s education.  Thus it stands to reason that you are condemning parents ... and thus the parents of their parents ... until you&#039;ve taken a swipe at everyone.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, that&#039;s why you posted under a false name ... because you didn&#039;t care to be subjected to the same scrutiny.  Should we blame you for your inability to reason dispassionately with this problem?  I&#039;d think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You and your ignorant ilk are the cause for the brainless wonders that are coming out of schools today. This country is doomed as long as their are teachers (jokes for making a living) like you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny, but I always thought parents had something to do with their children&#39;s education.  Thus it stands to reason that you are condemning parents &#8230; and thus the parents of their parents &#8230; until you&#39;ve taken a swipe at everyone.  </p>
<p>Of course, that&#39;s why you posted under a false name &#8230; because you didn&#39;t care to be subjected to the same scrutiny.  Should we blame you for your inability to reason dispassionately with this problem?  I&#39;d think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to write.  Actually, there is no evidence that this generation is any more or less intelligent than previous generations.  It sounds like you have no experience to speak of, which is why you resort to personal insults.  I don&#039;t usually allow these kinds of comments through, but you gave me a good laugh.  Thanks and glad to hear that my blog has riled you up sufficiently that you would offer such feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to write.  Actually, there is no evidence that this generation is any more or less intelligent than previous generations.  It sounds like you have no experience to speak of, which is why you resort to personal insults.  I don&#39;t usually allow these kinds of comments through, but you gave me a good laugh.  Thanks and glad to hear that my blog has riled you up sufficiently that you would offer such feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: G falls</title>
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		<dc:creator>G falls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This the most offensive blog post I have ever seen. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;To quote you: The truth is that this generation of teenagers is more connected to the world around them than at any time in this nation’s history&quot; is absolutely laughable. If you call sitting on their overweight butts punching computer keys and listening to teachers like you (everyone knows that those who CAN do - those who CAN&#039;T - teach),  then, yea, sure, they&#039;re &quot;connected&quot; all right!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, those in the sane world have only to look at test scores and talk to students (I just had a teenager ask me last week if the monuments on the Gettysburg battlefield were there during the battle).  Was she one of YOUR students???  Oh, yea - connected!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and your ignorant ilk are the cause for the brainless wonders that are coming out of schools today. This country is doomed as long as their are teachers (jokes for making a living) like you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;God bless Richard Dreyfus! One can only imagine why you would make fun of two thousand people who &quot;got it.&quot; I rather guess you are  proud to stand alone in your ignorance. (insert laugh here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This the most offensive blog post I have ever seen. </p>
<p>&#8220;To quote you: The truth is that this generation of teenagers is more connected to the world around them than at any time in this nation’s history&#8221; is absolutely laughable. If you call sitting on their overweight butts punching computer keys and listening to teachers like you (everyone knows that those who CAN do &#8211; those who CAN&#39;T &#8211; teach),  then, yea, sure, they&#39;re &#8220;connected&#8221; all right!</p>
<p>However, those in the sane world have only to look at test scores and talk to students (I just had a teenager ask me last week if the monuments on the Gettysburg battlefield were there during the battle).  Was she one of YOUR students???  Oh, yea &#8211; connected!</p>
<p>You and your ignorant ilk are the cause for the brainless wonders that are coming out of schools today. This country is doomed as long as their are teachers (jokes for making a living) like you.</p>
<p>God bless Richard Dreyfus! One can only imagine why you would make fun of two thousand people who &#8220;got it.&#8221; I rather guess you are  proud to stand alone in your ignorance. (insert laugh here)</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Cebula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Cebula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Kevin.  I despise the popular trend to disparage our own children, often based on no more than a few untrue anecdotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Kevin.  I despise the popular trend to disparage our own children, often based on no more than a few untrue anecdotes.</p>
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