Comments on: Debating Earl Ijames http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/ Where History, Heritage, and Education Intersect Thu, 24 May 2012 16:37:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brooks D. Simpson http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13900 Brooks D. Simpson Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:01:02 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13900 Update:<br><br><a href="http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2091" rel="nofollow">http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2091</a> Update:

http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2091

]]> By: Kevin Levin http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13749 Kevin Levin Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:07:10 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13749 That kind of comment can only appear on RW's blog. What I find absolutely hilarious is that it takes some of my regular readers to bring about a constructive discussion on his site. I just can't bring myself to respond to a "RebelRaider", "JacksonianLawyer", "WereWolfinExile" or "BorderRuffian". :D That kind of comment can only appear on RW's blog. What I find absolutely hilarious is that it takes some of my regular readers to bring about a constructive discussion on his site. I just can't bring myself to respond to a “RebelRaider”, “JacksonianLawyer”, “WereWolfinExile” or “BorderRuffian”. :D

]]> By: Brooks D. Simpson http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13748 Brooks D. Simpson Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:57:26 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13748 "At the same time, both Mr. Simpson and Levin have ignored or declined to have a public discourse on this matter." So says "anonymous" of Richard williams's blog. <br><br>Hmm. How my offer to host a discussion which has been accepted by one of the participants can be construed as declining to have such "public discourse" is something someone else will have to explain, as no one has asked me to discourse on anything in this matter. <br><br>How bizarre ... but, as we may see, how useful. :) “At the same time, both Mr. Simpson and Levin have ignored or declined to have a public discourse on this matter.” So says “anonymous” of Richard williams's blog.

Hmm. How my offer to host a discussion which has been accepted by one of the participants can be construed as declining to have such “public discourse” is something someone else will have to explain, as no one has asked me to discourse on anything in this matter.

How bizarre … but, as we may see, how useful. :)

]]> By: Kevin Levin http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13739 Kevin Levin Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:28:26 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13739 Thanks Brooks. Thanks Brooks.

]]> By: Brooks D. Simpson http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13738 Brooks D. Simpson Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:03:50 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13738 Invitation posted on Civil Warriors: <br><br><a href="http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2064" rel="nofollow">http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2064</a> Invitation posted on Civil Warriors:

http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?p=2064

]]> By: margaretdblough http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13729 margaretdblough Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:39:54 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13729 Brooks Simpson- (there was no reply button to your response to me)-I understand that your interpretation of the First Amendment is the same as mine. You strike me as an enthusiastic participant in the free marketplace of ideas. I wish there were more of Mr. Ijames' beliefs who were willing to engage in the kind of debate that you outline. In that kind of debate, I find that you can learn more from your opponents than from your allies. A well-reasoned opposing argument makes you examine your conclusions and do even more research. Brooks Simpson- (there was no reply button to your response to me)-I understand that your interpretation of the First Amendment is the same as mine. You strike me as an enthusiastic participant in the free marketplace of ideas. I wish there were more of Mr. Ijames' beliefs who were willing to engage in the kind of debate that you outline. In that kind of debate, I find that you can learn more from your opponents than from your allies. A well-reasoned opposing argument makes you examine your conclusions and do even more research.

]]> By: Brooks D. Simpson http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13725 Brooks D. Simpson Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:32:30 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13725 I'm simply highlighting another blogger's concept of free speech. That the blogger in question resides in the state associated with the father of the Bill of Rights is ... interesting. Maybe his reading of the Constitution's a bit different. I'm simply highlighting another blogger's concept of free speech. That the blogger in question resides in the state associated with the father of the Bill of Rights is … interesting. Maybe his reading of the Constitution's a bit different.

]]> By: Dan Wright http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13723 Dan Wright Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:44:07 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13723 It's good to know that you'll be using words instead of Sharps rifles. That's progress.<br>I think Ijames should get all the exposure he can. If there is more exposure for his ideas, they eventually stand or fall on their own merit. It's good to know that you'll be using words instead of Sharps rifles. That's progress.
I think Ijames should get all the exposure he can. If there is more exposure for his ideas, they eventually stand or fall on their own merit.

]]> By: margaretdblough http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13721 margaretdblough Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:29:01 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13721 Brooks-It's a common misconception that free speech means that someone can say whatever they want but anyone who disagrees or questions is attacked as a would-be censor. The truth is the absolute opposite-the reason that the First Amendment frowns on prior restraint, etc. is that the Framers and the courts that followed hold the highest value for the free marketplace of ideas-that the answer to objectionable speech is speech and let the listeners decide. Brooks-It's a common misconception that free speech means that someone can say whatever they want but anyone who disagrees or questions is attacked as a would-be censor. The truth is the absolute opposite-the reason that the First Amendment frowns on prior restraint, etc. is that the Framers and the courts that followed hold the highest value for the free marketplace of ideas-that the answer to objectionable speech is speech and let the listeners decide.

]]> By: Kevin Levin http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13718 Kevin Levin Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:21:07 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13718 Do a search for Edgerton at the top of the page and you should find plenty to follow up with. Do a search for Edgerton at the top of the page and you should find plenty to follow up with.

]]> By: Jared Frederick http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13717 Jared Frederick Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:15:22 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13717 On a slightly off topic note, speaking of the "black Confederate," I was surprised when I read this news article. I thought this forum might be the best place to get an opinion on it. Thanks.<br><br>"Southern heritage activist appears in Whiteville<br>Posted: Feb 14, 2010 8:35 AM EST Updated: Feb 14, 2010 9:12 PM EST<br><br>Posted by Scott Saxton <br><br>WHITEVILLE, NC (WECT) - The former president of the Asheville branch of the NAACP was scheduled to speak in Whiteville Sunday as part of a Black History Month celebration.<br><br>H.K. Edgerton may be most recognizable for his march from North Carolina to Texas in 2002 and 2003. Edgerton and his brother walked 1,606 miles from Asheville to Austin carrying the Confederate Battle Flag in an effort to build awareness of Southern culture and history.<br><br>Edgerton also opposed the Confederate flag exhibit at Gettysburg College by walking from Chambersburg to Gettysburg while wearing a Confederate uniform and carrying the flag.<br><br>Edgerton says African-Americans and Whites who fought for the Confederacy considered each other "family." He says his demonstrations are done in an effort to create dialogue.<br><br>Edgerton was set to speak at Peace Baptist Church on Love Mill Road in South Whiteville Sunday." On a slightly off topic note, speaking of the “black Confederate,” I was surprised when I read this news article. I thought this forum might be the best place to get an opinion on it. Thanks.

“Southern heritage activist appears in Whiteville
Posted: Feb 14, 2010 8:35 AM EST Updated: Feb 14, 2010 9:12 PM EST

Posted by Scott Saxton

WHITEVILLE, NC (WECT) – The former president of the Asheville branch of the NAACP was scheduled to speak in Whiteville Sunday as part of a Black History Month celebration.

H.K. Edgerton may be most recognizable for his march from North Carolina to Texas in 2002 and 2003. Edgerton and his brother walked 1,606 miles from Asheville to Austin carrying the Confederate Battle Flag in an effort to build awareness of Southern culture and history.

Edgerton also opposed the Confederate flag exhibit at Gettysburg College by walking from Chambersburg to Gettysburg while wearing a Confederate uniform and carrying the flag.

Edgerton says African-Americans and Whites who fought for the Confederacy considered each other “family.” He says his demonstrations are done in an effort to create dialogue.

Edgerton was set to speak at Peace Baptist Church on Love Mill Road in South Whiteville Sunday.”

]]> By: Kevin Levin http://cwmemory.com/2010/02/14/debating-earl-ijames/#comment-13716 Kevin Levin Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:25:37 +0000 http://cwmemory.com/?p=6567#comment-13716 I noticed that comment as well, but I can't say I was surprised. <br><br>As critical as I have been re: Mr. Ijames's handling of this issue I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and to learn from him. Mr. Ijames is in a unique position in that he has spent significant time with these primary sources and has had a chance to think about what they tell us about the Civil War and the Confederate war effort. I am willing to go anywhere the documents take me, but I must be provided with a compelling reason to accept a conclusion as opposed to competing explanations. Thanks again for offering to host a debate. I noticed that comment as well, but I can't say I was surprised.

As critical as I have been re: Mr. Ijames's handling of this issue I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and to learn from him. Mr. Ijames is in a unique position in that he has spent significant time with these primary sources and has had a chance to think about what they tell us about the Civil War and the Confederate war effort. I am willing to go anywhere the documents take me, but I must be provided with a compelling reason to accept a conclusion as opposed to competing explanations. Thanks again for offering to host a debate.

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